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		<title>By: JumanjiStan</title>
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		<dc:creator>JumanjiStan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 18:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great... so from the same people that brought you &quot;It&#039;s ok to marry 6-7 women at the same time&quot; comes 75million worth of adverts telling people that gays can&#039;t be married... Nice:(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great&#8230; so from the same people that brought you &#8220;It&#8217;s ok to marry 6-7 women at the same time&#8221; comes 75million worth of adverts telling people that gays can&#8217;t be married&#8230; Nice:(</p>
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		<title>By: JumanjiStan</title>
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		<dc:creator>JumanjiStan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 00:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if it does get the &quot;NO&quot; vote I bet you there will be years of legal battles to throw it out;(</description>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erin, I don&#039;t know about Joe Biden but I know that Obama has publicly stated that he&#039;s against Prop 8 and some of the banners had him on them too with the heading &quot;What&#039;s the one thing Obama and McCain both agree on?&quot; which is a blatant lie.

Dan, I really hope that people aren&#039;t convinced by a sign to vote on Prop 8 a ceratin way either.  Sadly, I think that a lot of the time people vote for things like Props and Measures, they just go by what they&#039;ve seen on billboards and signs.  They don&#039;t actually take the time to understand what each one is about before they go in to vote.

The girls here at work I questions know the Presidential candidates and Prop 8 and none of the dozen or so other causes they have to vote for today.  It&#039;s scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erin, I don&#8217;t know about Joe Biden but I know that Obama has publicly stated that he&#8217;s against Prop 8 and some of the banners had him on them too with the heading &#8220;What&#8217;s the one thing Obama and McCain both agree on?&#8221; which is a blatant lie.</p>
<p>Dan, I really hope that people aren&#8217;t convinced by a sign to vote on Prop 8 a ceratin way either.  Sadly, I think that a lot of the time people vote for things like Props and Measures, they just go by what they&#8217;ve seen on billboards and signs.  They don&#8217;t actually take the time to understand what each one is about before they go in to vote.</p>
<p>The girls here at work I questions know the Presidential candidates and Prop 8 and none of the dozen or so other causes they have to vote for today.  It&#8217;s scary.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 22:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe BIDEN is supporting this legislation? Is that his wrinkley face on that banner? WTF.

I would have removed it too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe BIDEN is supporting this legislation? Is that his wrinkley face on that banner? WTF.</p>
<p>I would have removed it too.</p>
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		<title>By: Traci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 19:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna This was posted on another forum I am on I thought you and ben might like the read. It actually brought tears to my eyes. 

MY BEST FRIEND’S GAY.

To all the straight dudes like me out there:

It’s the day before the election.

By the end of tomorrow, my best friend will know whether or not he can be legally married in the state of California. And as the polls stand right now, it looks like he won’t be able to do that. And that bums me out, brother.

If you told me when I was growing up that my best friend would be gay I’d have laughed in your face, maybe even punched you in it. I grew up in a rural area of Maryland filled with mullets, acid wash jeans and the good ole boys that wore them both. Hell, I was one of ‘em… part of me still is. I went to Catholic school, a private university and didn’t know an openly gay person until I moved to Los Angeles.

I played “smear the queer”, called my friends “faggots” and if someone did something silly or stupid, I’d call him “gay”. I simply had no frame of reference. Perhaps if you are reading this, you don’t either and I can appeal to you in these final hours…


I know every single one of you (whether you are man enough to admit it or not) hopes to find your perfect partner… dare I say soulmate? Personally, I have visions of finding “love at first sight”, going through the first stages of love where I can’t get enough of this beautiful woman, falling madly in love with her, marrying and living happily ever after where we both die peacefully in our sleep holding hands.

Guess what? We aren’t the only ones that have those feelings. Gay men and women have the exact same dreams that we do, because that is what PEOPLE do… dream. We dream of what we want to be when we grow up, the kind of house we want to live in, where we are going to vacation and what our perfect relationship looks like. And just like all of us straight guys where we prefer blondes over brunettes over redheads, there are some people that prefer others of the same sex. That’s really all there is to it. Believe it or not, they aren’t doing it to spite you.

I know that some of you who oppose same sex marriage want to make this into a huge deal where the door will be open for people to marry rabbits and aliens and anything else you can imagine, but the simple fact of the matter is, that argument doesn’t work.

My gay best friend doesn’t want to marry a rabbit any more than I do. Or an alien for that matter. (Although I would have sex with that hot alien chick on the new Battlestar Gallactica.)

I am in the entertainment industry and since moving to L.A., I have met hundreds of gay guys and I have to tell you all a secret… “Shhhh… they are people EXACTLY like you and me except they happen to like other dudes.” I know that seems weird to you. It did to me too when I first moved out here, but since then I have observed them and taken notes and this is what I have found:

OBSERVATION OF THE GAYS:

1) They have feelings just like you and me. They experience love, hate, jealousy, disappointment and elation.
2) Some of them actually have more successful relationships than we do. Imagine that. Two people in a relationship that actually works. What would you give for that? I’ve looked up to the sky and offered God ANYTHING for a successful relationship. I’m still waiting and I envy ANYONE that can make that work.
3) Gays are PEOPLE. They are entitled to the same things all other people are: the right to vote, the right to free speech and should be afforded the right to marry one another. It’s simply a matter of equality.
4) Gays are generally clean. This has nothing to do with anything, but I wanted to share ALL of the data with you.

My best friend is an amazing singer and one late night, we were hanging out with a few friends and he sang, “Loch Lomond” (look it up). When he was finished, without even thinking about it, I said, “One day, I want you to sing that at my wedding.” He was honored.

And then I started thinking about what honor I could bestow upon him to reciprocate. And it hit me that I may never be able to do something like that for him if Prop 8 passes tomorrow.

I’ve seen him these last two weeks in the throws of a budding relationship and it has been a real education for me. I’m not used to being this tight with a buddy who also happens to be gay and I have to say there are still things that open my eyes.

He’s in that beautiful, romantic phase of a new relationship where they want to spend every moment together. I’ve never seen him so happy. So inspired. And that makes me happy. Although it is still hard for me to understand how he can be physically attracted to another guy (we’re loud, sweaty and not that smart), what I do understand and appreciate are the feelings. And it is absolutely amazing to witness.

I hope he falls madly in love with this guy, they move in together and if they so choose, are allowed to marry one another in the eyes of the law and all of their “fabulous” party guests. If that happens, I’m sure I’ll cry. (I’m a sucker for weddings).

And in the meantime, I’m going to remain positive and think about what I can do for him at his wedding. It’s only fair. As it looks between the two of them now, I better start taking guitar lessons tonight.

So from one bro to another, I’d like to ask this favor: Please vote No on Prop 8.

Even if you don’t want to do it for the gay guys because you don’t know them, do it for me… a straight dude.

Because I really can’t stand having to owe anyone anything!

Thank you for reading this.

NO ON 8!

By: Stirling Gardner
Me@StirlingGardner.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna This was posted on another forum I am on I thought you and ben might like the read. It actually brought tears to my eyes. </p>
<p>MY BEST FRIEND’S GAY.</p>
<p>To all the straight dudes like me out there:</p>
<p>It’s the day before the election.</p>
<p>By the end of tomorrow, my best friend will know whether or not he can be legally married in the state of California. And as the polls stand right now, it looks like he won’t be able to do that. And that bums me out, brother.</p>
<p>If you told me when I was growing up that my best friend would be gay I’d have laughed in your face, maybe even punched you in it. I grew up in a rural area of Maryland filled with mullets, acid wash jeans and the good ole boys that wore them both. Hell, I was one of ‘em… part of me still is. I went to Catholic school, a private university and didn’t know an openly gay person until I moved to Los Angeles.</p>
<p>I played “smear the queer”, called my friends “faggots” and if someone did something silly or stupid, I’d call him “gay”. I simply had no frame of reference. Perhaps if you are reading this, you don’t either and I can appeal to you in these final hours…</p>
<p>I know every single one of you (whether you are man enough to admit it or not) hopes to find your perfect partner… dare I say soulmate? Personally, I have visions of finding “love at first sight”, going through the first stages of love where I can’t get enough of this beautiful woman, falling madly in love with her, marrying and living happily ever after where we both die peacefully in our sleep holding hands.</p>
<p>Guess what? We aren’t the only ones that have those feelings. Gay men and women have the exact same dreams that we do, because that is what PEOPLE do… dream. We dream of what we want to be when we grow up, the kind of house we want to live in, where we are going to vacation and what our perfect relationship looks like. And just like all of us straight guys where we prefer blondes over brunettes over redheads, there are some people that prefer others of the same sex. That’s really all there is to it. Believe it or not, they aren’t doing it to spite you.</p>
<p>I know that some of you who oppose same sex marriage want to make this into a huge deal where the door will be open for people to marry rabbits and aliens and anything else you can imagine, but the simple fact of the matter is, that argument doesn’t work.</p>
<p>My gay best friend doesn’t want to marry a rabbit any more than I do. Or an alien for that matter. (Although I would have sex with that hot alien chick on the new Battlestar Gallactica.)</p>
<p>I am in the entertainment industry and since moving to L.A., I have met hundreds of gay guys and I have to tell you all a secret… “Shhhh… they are people EXACTLY like you and me except they happen to like other dudes.” I know that seems weird to you. It did to me too when I first moved out here, but since then I have observed them and taken notes and this is what I have found:</p>
<p>OBSERVATION OF THE GAYS:</p>
<p>1) They have feelings just like you and me. They experience love, hate, jealousy, disappointment and elation.<br />
2) Some of them actually have more successful relationships than we do. Imagine that. Two people in a relationship that actually works. What would you give for that? I’ve looked up to the sky and offered God ANYTHING for a successful relationship. I’m still waiting and I envy ANYONE that can make that work.<br />
3) Gays are PEOPLE. They are entitled to the same things all other people are: the right to vote, the right to free speech and should be afforded the right to marry one another. It’s simply a matter of equality.<br />
4) Gays are generally clean. This has nothing to do with anything, but I wanted to share ALL of the data with you.</p>
<p>My best friend is an amazing singer and one late night, we were hanging out with a few friends and he sang, “Loch Lomond” (look it up). When he was finished, without even thinking about it, I said, “One day, I want you to sing that at my wedding.” He was honored.</p>
<p>And then I started thinking about what honor I could bestow upon him to reciprocate. And it hit me that I may never be able to do something like that for him if Prop 8 passes tomorrow.</p>
<p>I’ve seen him these last two weeks in the throws of a budding relationship and it has been a real education for me. I’m not used to being this tight with a buddy who also happens to be gay and I have to say there are still things that open my eyes.</p>
<p>He’s in that beautiful, romantic phase of a new relationship where they want to spend every moment together. I’ve never seen him so happy. So inspired. And that makes me happy. Although it is still hard for me to understand how he can be physically attracted to another guy (we’re loud, sweaty and not that smart), what I do understand and appreciate are the feelings. And it is absolutely amazing to witness.</p>
<p>I hope he falls madly in love with this guy, they move in together and if they so choose, are allowed to marry one another in the eyes of the law and all of their “fabulous” party guests. If that happens, I’m sure I’ll cry. (I’m a sucker for weddings).</p>
<p>And in the meantime, I’m going to remain positive and think about what I can do for him at his wedding. It’s only fair. As it looks between the two of them now, I better start taking guitar lessons tonight.</p>
<p>So from one bro to another, I’d like to ask this favor: Please vote No on Prop 8.</p>
<p>Even if you don’t want to do it for the gay guys because you don’t know them, do it for me… a straight dude.</p>
<p>Because I really can’t stand having to owe anyone anything!</p>
<p>Thank you for reading this.</p>
<p>NO ON 8!</p>
<p>By: Stirling Gardner<br />
<a href="mailto:Me@StirlingGardner.com">Me@StirlingGardner.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Traci</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traci</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 18:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know whats funny, Is my neighbors are out of town in Hawaii, (they absentee voted) They are No on Prop 8 supporters, Well the Chick they have watching thier house. Let the Yes on 8 Campaign put a huge sign in thier front yard! oh they will be pissed. my dad removed it and the chick put it back up, my dad told her they dont support it and she should respect thier house. she was like well im here right now arent I.  Oh that pissed my dad off, it will certainly piss my neighbors off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know whats funny, Is my neighbors are out of town in Hawaii, (they absentee voted) They are No on Prop 8 supporters, Well the Chick they have watching thier house. Let the Yes on 8 Campaign put a huge sign in thier front yard! oh they will be pissed. my dad removed it and the chick put it back up, my dad told her they dont support it and she should respect thier house. she was like well im here right now arent I.  Oh that pissed my dad off, it will certainly piss my neighbors off.</p>
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		<title>By: JumanjiStan</title>
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		<dc:creator>JumanjiStan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What really irks me is that even in this economy almost $100 million was wasted on fricking ad campaigns. I didn&#039;t realize we were so &quot;flush&quot; right now in California? Perhaps we could use some of that $100 million on umm.. I don&#039;t know, shelter for the guys sleeping on the streets? What the heck are they so afraid of or so interested in marriage for anyway? If two people choose to be together let them do as the please.... unless they are 15 year old kids (from different aunts) Eastern Kentucky, why shouldn&#039;t they be allowed the same legal rights (health care, insurance etc...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really irks me is that even in this economy almost $100 million was wasted on fricking ad campaigns. I didn&#8217;t realize we were so &#8220;flush&#8221; right now in California? Perhaps we could use some of that $100 million on umm.. I don&#8217;t know, shelter for the guys sleeping on the streets? What the heck are they so afraid of or so interested in marriage for anyway? If two people choose to be together let them do as the please&#8230;. unless they are 15 year old kids (from different aunts) Eastern Kentucky, why shouldn&#8217;t they be allowed the same legal rights (health care, insurance etc&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: Dan K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some &quot;Yes on 8&quot; lobbyists bought tons upon tons of adspace with Adsense. I saw the ads all over my forums, too.

The problem with blocking the ads via Adsense&#039;s control panel is that it takes about 24-48 hours for the changes to take effect, and I have never figured out a good way to block Flash ads (you can&#039;t just right click and copy the URL or click the URL at the bottom of the ad). This is one of the biggest weaknesses of Adsense.

A bigger concern (IMO) were the &quot;Yes on 8&quot; signs plastered all over the polling area near my house, near school sidewalks and public land. But if someone&#039;s convinced to vote for such a moral issue simply by reading a sign, they probably would&#039;ve voted for it anyway (or it&#039;s a coin-toss at best).

BTW Hi Anna.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some &#8220;Yes on 8&#8243; lobbyists bought tons upon tons of adspace with Adsense. I saw the ads all over my forums, too.</p>
<p>The problem with blocking the ads via Adsense&#8217;s control panel is that it takes about 24-48 hours for the changes to take effect, and I have never figured out a good way to block Flash ads (you can&#8217;t just right click and copy the URL or click the URL at the bottom of the ad). This is one of the biggest weaknesses of Adsense.</p>
<p>A bigger concern (IMO) were the &#8220;Yes on 8&#8243; signs plastered all over the polling area near my house, near school sidewalks and public land. But if someone&#8217;s convinced to vote for such a moral issue simply by reading a sign, they probably would&#8217;ve voted for it anyway (or it&#8217;s a coin-toss at best).</p>
<p>BTW Hi Anna.</p>
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		<title>By: amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 17:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They were all over LiveJournal yesterday, too :P Oh well. I voted NO! this morning before work :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were all over LiveJournal yesterday, too <img src='http://www.aflux.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  Oh well. I voted NO! this morning before work <img src='http://www.aflux.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BenTheHusband</title>
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		<dc:creator>BenTheHusband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 14:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t typically pay attention to those ads, but I occassionally look over at them, maybe it&#039;s just boredom (shrug).  

(Caity) Hopefully I&#039;m not losing my Internet Savvy-ness (heh)

:)

But, that is a very good point (That most people don&#039;t pay attention to them)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t typically pay attention to those ads, but I occassionally look over at them, maybe it&#8217;s just boredom (shrug).  </p>
<p>(Caity) Hopefully I&#8217;m not losing my Internet Savvy-ness (heh)</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.aflux.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But, that is a very good point (That most people don&#8217;t pay attention to them)</p>
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